Not sure why that sprung to mind...

[scarletmorning]

... but I spontaneously rememebered a post from some time ago about pairings and the stuff they do in bed. And I said about Pent/Louise that they don't strike me as particularly kinky. Then these thoughts stumbled through my brain:

They aren't but if Pent found a "Kinky Stuff for Mages with Magic. In Bed" book, he would totally go to Louise and say: "Darling, I need your assitance in an experiment."

"Of course, my Lord Pent. What kind of experiment is it?"

"I found this book about sex practices involving magic and I need to test if they work. In the name of science."

"Oh my, of course I'll support you in every way possible."

"Excellent. We'll meet 10 o'clock sharp for our first experiment. And since we don't want to lose any time, please do not wear anything. It would distort our results."

"... I love it when you talk science-y to me."

"You may call me 'professor' if it's beneficial to our cause."

"Oh yes, Professor Pent."

.....

8D XD

No, I do not know why I thought about that while sweeping the parking range. XD

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Edit because I have more random thoughts:

I was genderswitching fun in my head just because and somehow it turned... serious. I was wondering... If for some magical reason Ephraim and Eirika would switch their sex, would OrigEphraim take the chance and flounce off? Would he be totally like "Oh hey, sis, now you're the male heir. I'll be off doing mercenary stuff. The girl parts? Doesn't matter, I just want to be free"? Or would he accept that he has a job to do now (as in he has accept his legacy he can avoid) and stays king/queen?

What would you say, flist? What would your Ephraim do?

I'd say, if he's turned before the war, he would probably flounce. After the war, a clear (if wistful) "no". He has inherited his father´s place and he can't just hand it to his sister like this.

A related thought:

If OrigEphraim and OrigEirika were "born" genderswitched, they would still be Eirika and Ephraim, just the other way around. Normally I always use either a variation of the original name or a name that has similar sounds, but it wouldn't make too much sense with Eirika and Ephraim, would it? It would probably be confusing in a fic, but it would be logical.

Also, I do believe if the same happened to Innes and Tana, they would also be Tana and Innes, because I can see Hayden and Aileen deciding "If we have a boy, he's Innes and if it's a girl, Tana". Which they did. And if "Innes" were a girl, he would be named Tana.

Yes, random and confusing. Yay 8D

Comments

[mark-asphodel.livejournal.com]

Pre-war Ephraim would flounce. Female mercenaries are hardly unheard of (Crimson Flash, anyone?).

Post-war Ephraim... well, if we're dealing with EphRoute Ephraim, I don't think he'd take it very well. Actually, given the way he reacts to Lyon's death, he'd quite likely deny that anything that happened. I mean... Ephraim has a magnificent male body that he is used to and is a big factor in his self-image. Being stuffed into a female form that would, just by nature, be smaller and weaker and different, on top of everything else, just wouldn't be a fun experience.

Eirika would handle it better. Much better, IMO.

[crimsonmorgan.livejournal.com]

Hm, that makes sense for post-war Ephraim. Pre-war Ephraim would just weigh "female body" against "freedom" and freedom would probably win.

[mark-asphodel.livejournal.com]

A female Ephraim repeatedly conditioned to remain gentle and delicate and let the men do all the kickass stuff, the way Eirika seems to have been raised?

Exactly. Fem!Eph's aggression might be channeled into some other more socially acceptable outlet. She might still be the "dominant" twin, like Yumina is with Yubello in FE3/12, but she wouldn't just be the Ephraim we know and love with girlbits.

I attempted a word-doodle with "Eirik" and it just came off like a Xerox of Eliwood. :P

[crimsonmorgan.livejournal.com]

Certainly not the same (that would be boring and a bit pointless), but I still can see her as a (albeit maybe stereotypical) "rebel princess". She'd compromise, but traces of "our" Ephraim would still be there, imo.

Edited because pointless is the better word :P

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[raphiael]

Basically what Mark said. On top of the uncomfortable issues there, you have the differences in treatment between Eirika and Ephraim -- there seems to be no doubt that even subconsciously, the treatment of him (her?) would change by people like Seth and the other knights, and honestly change doens't seem like something he'd be very gung-ho about post-game.

Also, I think the idea of them both being born and raised as opposite genders brings up some really murky issues - like, Eirika wasn't formally taught swordplay despite her desire to protect herself, while Ephraim got training from Duessel and everything. You get into all that nature vs. nurture stuff, especially with the evident differences in treatment between the twins. A female Ephraim repeatedly conditioned to remain gentle and delicate and let the men do all the kickass stuff, the way Eirika seems to have been raised? It's probably not going to be the same character -- a measure of his "whatever, I do what I want" probably comes from the freedom of his upbringing. Likewise male!Eirika might not take well to all the fighting, but it would probably be something he'd be expected to excel at anyway.

(and re: names, I think it's really best to stick with things that are still very close to the original characters. Like if you said fem!Ephraim was named Eirika. . .? that gets really confusing. I'd just go with something like Ephra and Eirik, I guess.)

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[crimsonmorgan.livejournal.com]

Nature vs. Nurture stuff is fascinating, though 8D

I didn't have the feeling that Protecting Herself Eirika wanted to do early, actually. I don't think it started much earlier than she asks Ephraim about training her. Fado probably denied her the request, but I believe Eirika wouldn't let too much time pass between asking her father and asking Ephraim.

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[raphiael]

Yeah, in either event you still have even Ephraim trying to shoot her down (I just went through this chapter last night so I remembered where it was yay):

Eirika:
I've always relied on you to protect me, Brother. I would rather not be such a burden to you in the future. So, I thought maybe I should learn to protect myself...

Ephraim:
I'm your brother. Brothers are supposed to protect their sisters. It's nothing for you to worry about. It's no cause for concern.

Even with his/her devil-may-care attitude, I think it would be faulty to think genderbent Ephraim wouldn't run into these same stumbling blocks at some point, is what I'm saying.

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[crimsonmorgan.livejournal.com]

Oh, yes, certainly. But I see Ephraim fighting it on and winning. Maybe he angers a few people and runs against a few walls, but I always felt that he was incredibly stubborn.